User:Barrabas - Revision history

Barrabas at 01:17, 1 March 2014

2014-03-01T01:17:25Z

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	'''TL;DR:'''		'''TL;DR:'''

	* Barrabas has set aside $10,000 to run ~~the project~~ for the first year.		* Barrabas has set aside $10,000 to run SoylentNews for the first year.
	* Startup costs are less than $1,000		* Startup costs are less than $1,000
	* Legal and business costs are expected to be less than $1000		* Legal and business costs are expected to be less than $1000
	* Bandwidth fees are estimated at $300/mo or less		* Bandwidth fees are estimated at $300/mo. or less


			<span style="color: red;">Please E-mail me if you find a mistake:</span> John (at) SoylentNews (dot) com.


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	* Startup costs are less than $1,000		* Startup costs are less than $1,000
	* Legal and business costs are expected to be less than $1000		* Legal and business costs are expected to be less than $1000
	* Bandwidth fees are estimated at $300/mo or less		* Bandwidth fees are estimated at $300/mo. or less


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	!Total		!Total \|\|730.43
	\| ~~style="text-align:right;"~~ \|730.43
	\|}		\|}

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	\|<sup>(5)</sup> \|\|Linode backup		\|<sup>(5)</sup> \|\|Linode backup
	\| style="text-align:right;" \|110.00		\| style="text-align:right;" \|110.00
			\|-
			\|<sup>(6)</sup> \|\|SoylentNews.jp
			\| style="text-align:right;" \|90.00
			\|-
			\|<sup>(6,7)</sup> \|\|SoylentNews.cn
			\| style="text-align:right;" \|35.00
	\|-		\|-
	\|		\|
	!Total \|\|~~846~~.38		!Total \|\|971.38
	\|}		\|}

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	# One month of backups		# One month of backups
	# Monthly backup charges converted to 12 month single charge (10% discount)		# Monthly backup charges converted to 12 month single charge (10% discount)
			# For future use.
			# Failed to complete due to Chinese registrations restrictions :-(

			==Estimated future costs==

			''Note: These estimates are based on background information from the appendix.''
	~~==Estimated future costs==~~

	Assuming we don't hire anyone, our biggest ongoing expense will be for bandwidth.		Assuming we don't hire anyone, our biggest ongoing expense will be for bandwidth.

			From the 2007 article above, Slashdot was using 16.74 TB of transfer, which would cost $160/mo at today's rates.

			Using GoogleTrends as a guide and estimating by eye, Slashdot at present uses 1.7 TB of transfer, which would cost $20/mo. at today's rates.

	~~===Background information===~~		Also using GoogleTrends, Slashdot at its peak used 32 TB of transfer, which would cost $320/mo at today's rates.

	~~To inform this discussion~~, ~~note [[http:/~~/~~highscalability~~.~~com/slashdot-architecture-how-old-man-internet-learned-scale\|~~Slashdot's ~~2007 expenses]], which is summarized:~~		NCommander has extrapolated our data usage and estimates that we are serving 5 million pageviews per month, which will use approximately 1/3 of our monthly linode bandwidth allocation. This is consistent with Slashdot's current usage estimates from the data given in the appendix.

	* 5.5 million user visits per month.		From these estimates, it seems likely that SoylentNews will require less than $300/mo. for bandwidth in the first year.
	* 7,~~000 comments are added every day.~~
	* Over 9 million pages views daily.
	* Over 21 million comments.
	* Average monthly bandwidth ~~usage is around 40-50 mbit/sec~~.

			These estimates are preliminary, and will be updated as we get more usage information.


	~~Also, the [[http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q~~=~~slashdot\| Google Trends]] page for Slashdot:~~		==Other estimated expenses==

	~~<img width="75%" src="http://wiki~~.~~soylentnews.org/wiki/images/GoogleTrendSlashdot.png" />~~		* $1000 in business costs, mostly incorporation fees.


	~~Finally, I use [[https://www.linode.com/\| This pricing scheme]] as a basis for calculating bandwidth costs~~:		==Appendix: Background information==

	~~<img width="75%" src="~~http://~~wiki~~.~~soylentnews.org~~/~~wiki/images/LinodePlans.png" />~~		To inform this discussion, note [[http://highscalability.com/slashdot-architecture-how-old-man-internet-learned-scale\| Slashdot's 2007 statistics]], summarized:

			* 5.5 million user visits per month.
			* 7,000 comments are added every day.
			* Over 9 million pages views daily.
			* Over 21 million comments.
			* Average monthly bandwidth usage is around 40-50 mbit/sec.


	~~===Bandwidth estimates===~~

	~~<span style="color~~: ~~red;">Note: If I've made a mistake in these calculations, please E-mail me John (at) SoylentNews (dot)~~ com.</~~span>~~		Also, the [[http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=slashdot\| Google Trends]] page for Slashdot:

	~~From the 2007 article above,~~ Slashdot ~~was using 16.74 TB of transfer, which would cost $160/mo at today's rates.~~

			<img width="85%" src="http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/images/GoogleTrendSlashdot.png" />

	~~Using GoogleTrends as a guide and estimating by eye, Slashdot at present uses 1.7 TB of transfer, which would cost $20/mo. at today's rates.~~

			An estimate of [[http://slashdot.org.websitetrafficspy.com/\| Slashdot's current usage]]:

	~~Also using GoogleTrends, Slashdot at its peak used 32 TB of transfer, which would cost $320~~/~~mo at today's rates~~.		<img width="85%" src="http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/images/SlashdotPageviews.png" />


	~~NCommander has extrapolated our data usage and estimates that we are serving 5 million pageviews per month~~, ~~which will use approximately 1~~/~~3 of our monthly~~ linode bandwidth ~~allocation.~~		Finally, [[https://www.linode.com/\| This pricing scheme]] is the basis for calculating bandwidth costs:

			<img width="85%" src="http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/images/LinodePlans.png" />
	~~These estimates are preliminary, and will be updated as we get more usage information.~~


	==~~Other estimated expenses==~~

	* $1000 in business costs, mostly incorporation fees.

Barrabas at 00:41, 1 March 2014

2014-03-01T00:41:58Z

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	These estimates are preliminary, and will		These estimates are preliminary, and will be updated as we get more usage information.

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2014-03-01T00:41:11Z

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'''TL;DR:'''

* Barrabas has set aside $10,000 to run the project for the first year.
* Startup costs are less than $1,000
* Legal and business costs are expected to be less than $1000
* Bandwidth fees are estimated at $300/mo or less

==Summary of finances==

* Barrabas has set aside $10,000 to run the project for the first year.
* Startup costs are less than $1,000
* Legal and business costs are expected to be less than $1000
* Bandwidth fees are estimated at $300/mo or less

==Startup expenses==

Expenses incurred leading up to the initial rollout on Feb. 17:

{|class="wikitable"
! style="text-align:left;"|
! Item
! Cost
|-
|(1) ||AltSlashdot.org
| style="text-align:right;" | 16.05
|-
|(2) ||AltSlashdot.net
| style="text-align:right;" |16.58
|-
|(2) ||AltSlashdot.com
| style="text-align:right;" |15.50
|-
|(3) ||Virtual phone #
| style="text-align:right;" |14.83
|-
|(4) ||BlueHost hosting
| style="text-align:right;" |178.20
|-
|(5) ||SoylentNews.org
| style="text-align:right;" |16.05
|-
|(2) ||SoylentNews.net
| style="text-align:right;" |16.58
|-
|(2) ||SoylentNews.com
| style="text-align:right;" |15.50
|-
|(6) ||Pimsleur Spanish I
| style="text-align:right;" |120.00
|-
|(6) ||Pimsleur Spanish II
| style="text-align:right;" |120.00
|-
|(6) ||Pimsleur Spanish II
| style="text-align:right;" |120.00
|-
|(7) ||Sony MP3 player
| style="text-align:right;" |74.99
|-
|(7) ||USPS Shipping
| style="text-align:right;" |6.15
|-
|
!Total
| style="text-align:right;" |730.43
|}

Notes:

# The original name for the project was "AltSlashdot".
# The project uses the ".org" top level domain. It's important to also get ".com" and ".net" to prevent squatters from creating lookalike sites that can confuse readers and dilute out brand.
# I got a virtual phone number (for $4.99/mo) to keep my personal line private. Mostly this was for account activation.
# The project was originally hosted by BlueHost, and bumped up two tiers as we exceeded their capacity. We have since migrated to linodes.
# The project was renamed "SoylentNews", as the original name "AltSlashdot" was thought to be legally dangerous.
# Personal gift to NCommander (who is studying Spanish) for getting SlashCode running
# I shipped NCommander a "burner" (ie - inexpensive) MP3 player to use

==Ongoing expenses==

Additional ongoing expenses, as of Mar 1:

{|class="wikitable"
! style="text-align:left;"|
! Item
! Cost
|-
|(1,2) ||Linode 1024
| style="text-align:right;" |220.74
|-
|(1,2) ||Linode 1024
| style="text-align:right;" |220.74
|-
|(1,2) ||Linode 1024
| style="text-align:right;" |220.74
|-
|(3) ||Linode backup
| style="text-align:right;" |61.32
|-
|(4) ||Linode backup
| style="text-align:right;" |6.42
|-
|(4) ||Linode backup
| style="text-align:right;" |6.42
|-
|(5) ||Linode backup
| style="text-align:right;" |110.00
|-
|
!Total ||846.38
|}

Notes:

# The project migrated from BlueHost to linodes
# Linode 1024 for 12 months (10% discount)
# Monthly backups for 12 months (10% discount)
# One month of backups
# Monthly backup charges converted to 12 month single charge (10% discount)

==Estimated future costs==

Assuming we don't hire anyone, our biggest ongoing expense will be for bandwidth.

===Background information===

To inform this discussion, note [[http://highscalability.com/slashdot-architecture-how-old-man-internet-learned-scale|Slashdot's 2007 expenses]], which is summarized:

* 5.5 million user visits per month.
* 7,000 comments are added every day.
* Over 9 million pages views daily.
* Over 21 million comments.
* Average monthly bandwidth usage is around 40-50 mbit/sec.

Also, the [[http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=slashdot| Google Trends]] page for Slashdot:

<img width="75%" src="http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/images/GoogleTrendSlashdot.png" />

Finally, I use [[https://www.linode.com/| This pricing scheme]] as a basis for calculating bandwidth costs:

<img width="75%" src="http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/images/LinodePlans.png" />

===Bandwidth estimates===

Note: If I've made a mistake in these calculations, please E-mail me John (at) SoylentNews (dot) com.

From the 2007 article above, Slashdot was using 16.74 TB of transfer, which would cost $160/mo at today's rates.

Using GoogleTrends as a guide and estimating by eye, Slashdot at present uses 1.7 TB of transfer, which would cost $20/mo. at today's rates.

Also using GoogleTrends, Slashdot at its peak used 32 TB of transfer, which would cost $320/mo at today's rates.

NCommander has extrapolated our data usage and estimates that we are serving 5 million pageviews per month, which will use approximately 1/3 of our monthly linode bandwidth allocation.

These estimates are preliminary, and will

==Other estimated expenses==

* $1000 in business costs, mostly incorporation fees.