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Admin: Admin moved page Finances/Archive to Historic:Finances/Archive

2024-12-04T05:19:52Z

Admin moved page Finances/Archive to Historic:Finances/Archive

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Sir Finkus at 21:01, 21 September 2016

2016-09-21T21:01:31Z

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			{{archival}}
	'''Update:'''This project will be non-profit and community-driven.		'''Update:'''This project will be non-profit and community-driven.

	~~'''Note:'''This page is archival~~

	I'm not wedded to for-profit, and realize that people want assurances about selling out in the future &c.		I'm not wedded to for-profit, and realize that people want assurances about selling out in the future &c.

FunPika: FunPika moved page Finances to Finances/Archive without leaving a redirect: Outdated page that needs to be rewritten.

2014-09-15T23:12:50Z

FunPika moved page Finances to Finances/Archive without leaving a redirect: Outdated page that needs to be rewritten.

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FunPika: Undo revision 8459 by The Mighty Buzzard (talk)

2014-09-15T23:11:50Z

Undo revision 8459 by The Mighty Buzzard (talk)

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	~~Rewrite coming very soon~~. This page was ~~extremely dated~~ and has ~~been archived~~ [[~~FinancesARCHIVED~~\|~~here~~]].		'''Update:'''This project will be non-profit and community-driven.

			'''Note:'''This page is archival

			I'm not wedded to for-profit, and realize that people want assurances about selling out in the future &c.

			I'm going to put this issue off and post no substantive position until we have a working site and get a chance to catch our breath. This will take about 2 weeks, maybe 4 if we're unlucky.

			People can then make proposals and we can discuss assurances and whatnot. If you can hold off on your misgivings until then, we can work on getting the site up and running.

			Please continue to discuss, only note that I won't be responding to these issues for awhile.

			You can leave comments in the space below.


			=Business=
			Slashdot was originally run using 10 full time employees ([[http://strom.com/awards/237.html\|source]]).

			Summary of the business history on [[wikipedia:Slashdot\|Wikipedia]].

			The direction we are headed towards is some type of NFP. Staff are discussing and contacting various organizations as how best to proceed. This will require incorporation, which is also being pursued.


			== Business model variants ==
			*[[ForProfit\|Centralised, for profit]];
			*[[PureContent\|A pure content provider, community provides web servers]]
			*[[Distributed\|Fully decentralised architectures]].


			== Ideas on how to make money to finance the operation ==
			* What makes Slash so good? The comments section! Why? Because it brings together a large group of smart and intelligent IT professionals who share their collective knowledge.
			* -> This is value!
			* -> Who has money to spend? Managers, finance guys, etc.
			* -> What do they need? Expertise.
			* => (1) How about crowdsourcing answers for questions they have? Like "What the heck is WebRTC?", "What are the costs of implementing XYZ in my company?", "Who has experience with XYZ? Why should or shouldn't I buy it?", "How can I solve problem XYZ?"-> Sell "ask Slash" posts with an additional "professional review by mods with a lot of karma" feature. Introduce extra karma/virtual gold coins for those who contribute with valuable answers to these "ask Slash professional" posts.
			* ==> the idea is to make money out of the explicit value Slash has, namely its community/commenters.


			* Below is a copy from [[FeatureList#Article_submission]] - '''To have funds for all that''', we could use:
			** That tipping system (mentioned in moderation section of [[FeatureList]]), and everytime you tip someone else a very tiny fraction of that tip goes to [this project]. <-- I like this [[User:Mrcoolbp\|mrcoolbp]] ([[User talk:Mrcoolbp\|talk]]) 23:15, 14 February 2014 (MST)
			** Also payments from people desperate to post in thread (or story) where they have moderated (if we decide that this feature is useful, and if it is thread or whole story) - also in moderation section of [[FeatureList]]. <-- mentioned elsewhere that this is not a good idea (people with money shouldn't have more say) [[User:Mrcoolbp\|mrcoolbp]] ([[User talk:Mrcoolbp\|talk]]) 23:15, 14 February 2014 (MST)
			** Failed submitters, who had to give back their cryptocoin reward for their submission plus some extra fraction because their story was hated after it was submitted (think Roland Piquepaille) as mentioned in [[FeatureList]] (they can't submit new stories if they don't give back their payments).
			** Also we can simply hope for money from cryptocoin donations address. IMHO that is quite possible if we make this site good.
			** We might consider ''paying subscribers'' using cryptocoin.
			** Make a "featured product/serivce -> ask for review" section that charges for having a product reviewed

The Mighty Buzzard: Replaced content with "Rewrite coming very soon. This page was extremely dated and has been archived here."

2014-09-15T19:43:18Z

Replaced content with "Rewrite coming very soon. This page was extremely dated and has been archived here."

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	~~'''Update:'''This project will be non-profit and community-driven~~.		Rewrite coming very soon. This page was extremely dated and has been archived [[FinancesARCHIVED\|here]].

	~~'''Note:'''~~This page ~~is archival~~

	~~I'm not wedded to for-profit, and realize that people want assurances about selling out in the future &c.~~

	~~I'm going to put this issue off and post no substantive position until we have a working site and get a chance to catch our breath. This will take about 2 weeks, maybe 4 if we're unlucky.~~

	~~People can then make proposals and we can discuss assurances and whatnot. If you can hold off on your misgivings until then, we can work on getting the site up and running.~~

	~~Please continue to discuss, only note that I won't be responding to these issues for awhile.~~

	~~You can leave comments in the space below.~~


	~~=Business=~~
	~~Slashdot~~ was ~~originally run using 10 full time employees ([[http://strom.com/awards/237.html\|source]]).~~

	~~Summary of the business history on [[wikipedia:Slashdot\|Wikipedia]].~~

	~~The direction we are headed towards is some type of NFP. Staff are discussing and contacting various organizations as how best to proceed. This will require incorporation, which is also being pursued.~~


	~~== Business model variants ==~~
	*[[ForProfit\|Centralised, for profit]];
	*[[PureContent\|A pure content provider, community provides web servers]]
	*[[Distributed\|Fully decentralised architectures]].


	~~== Ideas on how to make money to finance the operation ==~~
	* What makes Slash so good? The comments section! Why? Because it brings together a large group of smart and ~~intelligent IT professionals who share their collective knowledge.~~
	* -> This is value!
	* -> Who has ~~money to spend? Managers, finance guys, etc.~~
	* -> What do they need? Expertise.
	* => (1) How about crowdsourcing answers for questions they have? Like "What the heck is WebRTC?", "What are the costs of implementing XYZ in my company?", "Who has experience with XYZ? Why should or shouldn't I buy it?", "How can I solve problem XYZ?"-> Sell "ask Slash" posts with an additional "professional review by mods with a lot of karma" feature. Introduce extra karma/virtual gold coins for those who contribute with valuable answers to these "ask Slash professional" posts.
	* ==> the idea is to make money out of the explicit value Slash has, namely its community/commenters.


	* Below is a copy from [[FeatureList#Article_submission]] - '''To have funds for all that''', we could use:
	** That tipping system (mentioned in moderation section of [[FeatureList]]), and everytime you tip someone else a very tiny fraction of that tip goes to [this project]. <-- I like this [[User:Mrcoolbp\|mrcoolbp]] ([[User talk:Mrcoolbp\|talk]]) 23:15, 14 February 2014 (MST)
	** Also payments from people desperate to post in thread (or story) where they have moderated (if we decide that this feature is useful, and if it is thread or whole story) - also in moderation section of [[FeatureList]]. <-- mentioned elsewhere that this is not a good idea (people with money shouldn't have more say) [[User:Mrcoolbp\|mrcoolbp]] ([[~~User talk:Mrcoolbp~~\|~~talk~~]]~~) 23:15, 14 February 2014 (MST)~~
	** Failed submitters, who had to give back their cryptocoin reward for their submission plus some extra fraction because their story was hated after it was submitted (think Roland Piquepaille) as mentioned in [[FeatureList]] (they can't submit new stories if they don't give back their payments).
	** Also we can simply hope for money from cryptocoin donations address. IMHO that is quite possible if we make this site good.
	** We might consider ''paying subscribers'' using cryptocoin.
	** Make a "featured product/serivce -> ask for review" section that charges for having a product reviewed

Mrcoolbp: Changed Slashdot to "Slash"

2014-05-11T03:25:34Z

Changed Slashdot to "Slash"

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	== Ideas on how to make money to finance the operation ==		== Ideas on how to make money to finance the operation ==
	* What makes ~~Slashdot~~ so good? The comments section! Why? Because it brings together a large group of smart and intelligent IT professionals who share their collective knowledge.		* What makes Slash so good? The comments section! Why? Because it brings together a large group of smart and intelligent IT professionals who share their collective knowledge.
	* -> This is value!		* -> This is value!
	* -> Who has money to spend? Managers, finance guys, etc.		* -> Who has money to spend? Managers, finance guys, etc.
	* -> What do they need? Expertise.		* -> What do they need? Expertise.
	* => (1) How about crowdsourcing answers for questions they have? Like "What the heck is WebRTC?", "What are the costs of implementing XYZ in my company?", "Who has experience with XYZ? Why should or shouldn't I buy it?", "How can I solve problem XYZ?"-> Sell "ask ~~Slashdot~~" posts with an additional "professional review by mods with a lot of karma" feature. Introduce extra karma/virtual gold coins for those who contribute with valuable answers to these "ask ~~Slashdot~~ professional" posts.		* => (1) How about crowdsourcing answers for questions they have? Like "What the heck is WebRTC?", "What are the costs of implementing XYZ in my company?", "Who has experience with XYZ? Why should or shouldn't I buy it?", "How can I solve problem XYZ?"-> Sell "ask Slash" posts with an additional "professional review by mods with a lot of karma" feature. Introduce extra karma/virtual gold coins for those who contribute with valuable answers to these "ask Slash professional" posts.
	* ==> the idea is to make money out of the explicit value ~~Slashdot~~ has, namely its community/commenters.		* ==> the idea is to make money out of the explicit value Slash has, namely its community/commenters.

Mrcoolbp: /* Ideas on how to make money to finance the operation */

2014-05-11T03:23:00Z

Ideas on how to make money to finance the operation

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	* Below is a copy from [[FeatureList#Article_submission]] - '''To have funds for all that''', we could use:		* Below is a copy from [[FeatureList#Article_submission]] - '''To have funds for all that''', we could use:
	** That tipping system (mentioned in moderation section of [[FeatureList]]), and everytime you tip someone else a very tiny fraction of that tip goes to ~~altslashdot~~. <-- like this [[User:Mrcoolbp\|mrcoolbp]] ([[User talk:Mrcoolbp\|talk]]) 23:15, 14 February 2014 (MST)		** That tipping system (mentioned in moderation section of [[FeatureList]]), and everytime you tip someone else a very tiny fraction of that tip goes to [this project]. <-- I like this [[User:Mrcoolbp\|mrcoolbp]] ([[User talk:Mrcoolbp\|talk]]) 23:15, 14 February 2014 (MST)
	** Also payments from people desperate to post in thread (or story) where they have moderated (if we decide that this feature is useful, and if it is thread or whole story) - also in moderation section of [[FeatureList]]. <-- mentioned elsewhere that this is not a good idea (people with money shouldn't have more say) [[User:Mrcoolbp\|mrcoolbp]] ([[User talk:Mrcoolbp\|talk]]) 23:15, 14 February 2014 (MST)		** Also payments from people desperate to post in thread (or story) where they have moderated (if we decide that this feature is useful, and if it is thread or whole story) - also in moderation section of [[FeatureList]]. <-- mentioned elsewhere that this is not a good idea (people with money shouldn't have more say) [[User:Mrcoolbp\|mrcoolbp]] ([[User talk:Mrcoolbp\|talk]]) 23:15, 14 February 2014 (MST)
	** Failed submitters, who had to give back their cryptocoin reward for their submission plus some extra fraction because their story was hated after it was submitted (think Roland Piquepaille) as mentioned in [[FeatureList]] (they can't submit new stories if they don't give back their payments).		** Failed submitters, who had to give back their cryptocoin reward for their submission plus some extra fraction because their story was hated after it was submitted (think Roland Piquepaille) as mentioned in [[FeatureList]] (they can't submit new stories if they don't give back their payments).

Mrcoolbp at 21:16, 10 May 2014

2014-05-10T21:16:04Z

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	You can leave comments in the space below.		You can leave comments in the space below.


			=Business=
			Slashdot was originally run using 10 full time employees ([[http://strom.com/awards/237.html\|source]]).

			Summary of the business history on [[wikipedia:Slashdot\|Wikipedia]].

			The direction we are headed towards is some type of NFP. Staff are discussing and contacting various organizations as how best to proceed. This will require incorporation, which is also being pursued.


	== Business model variants ==		== Business model variants ==

Mrcoolbp at 18:57, 10 May 2014

2014-05-10T18:57:39Z

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	'''Update:''' ~~We are starting to believe that this~~ project ~~could~~ be ~~done~~ non-profit and community driven~~, in the manner of Wikipedia~~.		'''Update:'''This project will be non-profit and community-driven.

			'''Note:'''This page is archival

	I'm not wedded to for-profit, and realize that people want assurances about selling out in the future &c.		I'm not wedded to for-profit, and realize that people want assurances about selling out in the future &c.

Mrcoolbp at 23:55, 7 March 2014

2014-03-07T23:55:26Z

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	'''Update:''' ~~With the tsunami of volunteers I (John, the admin) am~~ starting to believe that this project could be done non-profit and community driven, in the manner of Wikipedia.		'''Update:''' We are starting to believe that this project could be done non-profit and community driven, in the manner of Wikipedia.

	I'm not wedded to for-profit, and realize that people want assurances about selling out in the future &c.		I'm not wedded to for-profit, and realize that people want assurances about selling out in the future &c.