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ForProfit

2014-02-11T01:16:32Z

El Oscuro:

Here's a copy of my vision for the project, was sent around in one of the mailing list posts. Note that it puts "attract and keep readers" first, before "make money". The intent is to avoid trading off user satisfaction for money - the users come first.

* The purpose of the site will be to attract and keep readers.
* The site is intended to make money
* The site will hire people, and be a good employer
* I intend to listen to community feedback and do whatever makes the site better
* There will be monetization; however, this is secondary to the primary goal, which is to attract and keep readers.
* Users ('''I think won't''') will be monetized (ie we won't sell our user's contact info)
* We won't poach from Slashdot

(Monetization meaning largely what Slashdot does now: advertizing, merchandise, and job postings.)

'''Note:''' this is only a proposal! This has never been done before, and I have no idea at this time whether it's feasible, or even legal.

==Synopsis:==

The financial intent of the business will be to make people independent. To that end, the company will fund $52,000 annuities to be given to people who help build and maintain the system.

==Overall description:==

The purpose of the fund is to take people out of the workforce without leaving them in poverty. A fund participant receives a weekly income large enough to live on, by which they may (if they choose) leave the workforce.

Income is paid in perpetuity: payout continues after death of original recipient, can be willed, inherited, sold or given away. Income is strictly one per person.

The proposed fund account returns $52,000/year ($1000/week). Fund amount needed to attain that level is hypothetically $1 million per participant:

* 10% Overall return (Indexed fund returns over 40 years == 12%. [http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickferri/2013/04/04/index-fund-returns-get-better-with-age/ source])

* -3.5% Inflation adjustment

* -0.5% Management fees (Similar to Fidelity Portfolio Advisory Service. [https://www.fidelity.com/managed-accounts/portfolio-advisory-service/overview source])

* -5.2% Annual payout

With these numbers, fund will gain 0.8% annual value over time, which can be used as hedge against poor market performance.

* I'd be careful with assuming a 10% return. While long term history shows that to be the case, in the previous 10 years the S&P 500 has yielded under 8%. Additionally, if you are planning to deduct money out of the fund every year, one bad year can have catastrophic effects on the overall viability of the fund since you would be forced to liquidate assets at non-optimal prices. I would urge a more conservative measure. I would be happy look into these options with you as well since this is one of my areas of expertise. -Nightbrood

==Participation==

AltSlashdot will employ N people for site management. Site will accrue profits until N times $1 million is attained, and then award each employee with one annuity.

This is the weak point 'site will accrue profits' but how? Advertising? advertorials? Donations? In general, I'd suggest that we use a standard template that deals with cash flow, income etc.

*It has been awhile since I have been in the website business. What is the non-intrusive advertising market like as far as compensation rates? I'd be against advertorials. It is bad enough that supposedly reputable places like CNN and CNBC are littered with them. Donations and Premium subscriptions are another cash flow stream that could make the site viable. Especially if we are transparent what donations are used for etc. -Nightbrood

== Comments ==

This is very good for 'employees' but it does nothing to prevent the same thing as happened to Slashdot 1.0. How is this new endeavor going to protect its users and be accountable to them? What prevents this from being a pump and dump? ~ElectricTurtle

* I have to agree with the others, I do not mind us starting something with paid staff. However, I do not feel this effort would be met with success if we essentially tell our community that this business won't mistreat them like the prior one did. Even though the prior one said they would not change anything. At this point, I think many in the community would be reticent to trade one corporate master for another. - Nightbrood

* Agree with Electric... Primary purpose of any fund should be to cover operating costs, then worry about paying the people who run the place. To get a true quourum of /. here, I think it needs to be more open source than that, with assurances that the community won't lose out again... -- CoolHnd30

* I suppose it means that those involved in running this venture will bust their asses to make sure the fund hits that magic number. It would mean keeping visitors happy for how ever long that takes, spreading the word, and making that $$ come in. If the community isn't happy, people wont see ads / buy merch, and retirement never comes. I'm just assuming that's the thought process. - Cactus

** And once the goal is reached, the oligarchs can just turn on the community again, cash out, and say "Deuces!" while they get paid in perpetuity. ~ElectricTurtle

*** True enough. Any suggestions on what would allay community fears while letting Okian Warrior do something at least similar to what he wants to try? I really think this idea could be a very strong motivator to those involved... but I don't know what would keep it from possibly going down in flames once the goal is reached. - Cactus
**** I had made a suggestion [http://www.altslashdot.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:AltSlashdot#Group_or_Business] about establishing some guarantees in a charter that can only be changed with buy-in from the userbase. (Unlike the sundry TOS where terms can be changed at any time without notice bullshit.)--[[User:ElectricTurtle|ElectricTurtle]] ([[User talk:ElectricTurtle|talk]]) 13:23, 6 February 2014 (MST)
*****I'm all for a "Bill of Rights" thing. If people are to switch over wholesale from Slashdot, the general community will need to come up with a list of demands, or a charter or something. We can't completely ruin any desire to run this site, but I think there are things a userbase can reasonably expect from a community driven site.

* Well, if you want to do this and not succumb to the "sold out" aspect, then the 'annuities' need to be in the form of shares - then the people who contributed to make the site get a say in how and what happens to it, and if the majority think selling out is a bad thing, then it will not get sold off. Sure, you need income to pay hosting and other things, but I think that can come with a subtle bit of advertising stuck off the bottom. Or you can sell the userbase's details to the marketeers .. like "not evil" Google does. Anyway, I think it should be more concerned with being more open source and idealistic from the start.
**I second this motion of shares; the meme du jour is that The Users are Slashdot - let's make it literally true. If you buy a sub, you buy a share in the profits of any advertising after expenses, plus a vote on the future direction of the website. --Kell

*micropayments for highly rated posts? --CoolHnd30
**That is an interesting idea. I have always wanted to reward people who take the time to contribute high quality content to a site. May be an idea worth considering but determining how such a system will work would require some thought. - Nightbrood

*What about using a "premium" model, as arstechnica does? People paying like 1$ or 5$ a month don't get ads. Plus a pdf of the most insulting comments that month :)

*Have you thought of created a cooperative? You would be CEO but managed by a board of directors. Board of directors would be elected by members. Members would be anyone who wants to pay for *premium* membership (no ads) with a $5 annual membership share. Members have a right to vote for the board of directors who make decisions about how the organization is run. One member one vote. You're still profitable but DICE-type heavy handed decisions are impossible because in most cooperatives, major decisions require a referendum by the membership. Something to consider, NCBA in the USA or ICA internationally have tons of resources on setting them up.
** I like this idea. There are piles of resources online that will direct you in setting up a co-op. - Cactus
** I like the idea of a cooperative. This should ultimately be for the community and would remove the negative stigma attached to a conventional corporation. - Nightbrood

* I am curious why you are proposing this model rather than just hiring people, or profit-sharing. I see practical problems with its implementation: how can you be sure the site will ever make N times $1 million? What about people who work hard for six or twelve months and burn out before you hit the magic number -- they get nothing? What about someone who joins the team late? And so on. I respect the novelty of your idea but if I were one of three developers and you only(!) made $2 million the first year, I would feel kind of shafted working all year for nothing when there are $2 million sitting in the bank. Doubly so, if something bad happened and the site shut down without ever having paid anyone. [[User:Sir Garlon|Sir Garlon]]
*If it's for-profit, that'll always be the primary goal, regardless of any other suggestion. Has to be community driven and supported by donations. Also, the goal shouldn't be to attract people, but to aggregate the best content and discussions.
** Can I support idea to drive the site from community contributions and public donations? Take a page from kickstarter and offer an involved donation menu - be transparent about your ongoing costs etc and how much is recommended to keep things afloat. Some sort of small visual indicator of the overall status can be shown at the top of the main page. Donations can even be broken down into different goals if necessary.

NewName

2014-02-08T01:05:06Z

El Oscuro: /* Memes */

''We need a new name''

''I agree with everyone who has suggested a name different from "AltSlashdot".''

''So far, none of the suggested alternatives seem to be popular (I considered "ForkSlashdot" and discarded it :-).''

''I think the best course is to get things up and running and then hold a name contest. A community effort should make this task easy.''

''We don't have to do this immediately. "AltSlashdot" is significantly different from "Slashdot", and we won't be poaching any of their stories or (as much as practical) style.''

''If things go very well, the new site might be up and running by Monday (Feb 10). Giving some time to settle in, we could have the contest in two weeks or so. If everything goes well...''

==Name change discussion==

I propose "NoBeta" as a name, ensuring that this new site never forgets its roots. It's a name with an [ongoing] story behind it, has all sorts of 31337 connotations, etc etc. It could make for a good story some day.

----

Someone below proposed "NotBeta" as a name, with the "!β" as its shorthand. I'm all in for that!
----
Second NotBeta.org -That url should be obtained as it is a winner!!! Plus unicode support is the one feature anyone actually wants implemented.

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SGT CAPSLOCK

killbeta.org?
diebetadie.org?

unitron

* Really, I'm sold on AltSlashdot, but I just want to make sure that there will be enough Natalie Portman.

''If we turn a profit by the end of the year, I'll put a Natalie Portman link on the front page.''

* Can we somehow get Cowboyneal back? Can we plan some evil way to get him fired from his current job and desperate enough to come back reestablish the Slashdot community as its tribal leader?

* I think we should veer away from establishing an identity based on Dice, the Beta or our strong negative feelings about those. This is about re-establishing the community and giving us a new home, one that belongs to the community and isn't beholden to some evil corporate overlords. Alluding to slashdot is okay -- I agree with SGT CAPSLOCK that we shouldn't forget our roots. --[[User:Voidphoenix|voidphoenix (710468)]] ([[User talk:Voidphoenix|talk]])

== New Name ==
Please comment. For actual proposals, see the [[NewName#Name Options|tables below]].

* Consider a '''name change'''. If you're serious about this, then the name "AltSlashdot" will run you into legal trouble down the road, since Slashdot/Dice/etc. will sue for Trademark infringement (and will have a solid case). Slashdot user [http://slashdot.org/~tpaudio tpaudio] suggested [http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757151&cid=46170795 "Plusdot"]. Another idea (mine) is to call it "divergence" or "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divergence divergence operator]"... the logo would be the mathematical form of divergence, i.e. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabla_symbol nabla] symbol followed by a dot (which looks like an augmented "slash dot"). --Slashdot user [http://slashdot.org/~JustinOpinion JustinOpinion].
** I agree with JustinOpinion, any name with "slash" or "dot" in it will put us in the crosshairs of Dice's lawyers, and we do not want that. "Divergence" is nice. --[[User:Sir Garlon]] 16:36, 2014-02-06 (EST)
** I like Divergence too. Also fitting that it's a unicode character, which Slashdot can't handle... --Anonymous Coward
** Perhaps altslash.org? Sounds far enough from slashdot to avoid problems, but close enough to clue in any refugees. [[User:Max Hyre|Max Hyre]] ([[User talk:Max Hyre|talk]]) 08:34, 6 February 2014 (MST)
** I'm gonna vote for '''divergence''', I think the name along speaks to the community as to why we want something different/better than the aim of SlashFail Beta. (keick)
** Vote for '''divergence''' also for the same reasons as mentioned above (Qwade)
** I also vote for '''divergence''' anything that comes out of this will probably be eyed by Dice legal. (Nightbrood)

* I agree that AltSlashdot is hard to pronounce, but wasn't that the idea behind h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-slash-dot-dot-o-r-g (that is should be hard to pronounce)? [[User:Dotancohen|Dotancohen]] ([[User talk:Dotancohen|talk]]) 08:41, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* The name "AltSlashdot" does not "mouth" well. May I suggest "Slashfork"? --[[User:Koen|Koen]] ([[User talk:Koen|talk]]) 08:52, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* How about betterthanbeta.org or similar? After all, we all know what created this. Another option would be some meme-based thing, like frostyhotgrits.org. Actually, frostyhotgrits.org would be both unique, and make most Slashdotters feel right at home. Greets, Iskender (1040286) [[Special:Contributions/86.50.93.164|86.50.93.164]] 09:39, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* backslashdot.org. Backslash. Back to basics. Back to the old school. Hell yea.
**Alternatively - why not a more elegant backslash.org ? --kell
** I agree with '''backslash.org''', seems to be up for sale.

* can we get one of those new top-level domains, like .bank, except instead get .dot? Then name it SlashSlash.dot ;-)

* I second the person who suggested dot-dot-slash (../). Going up a directory is like going "back", which is the purpose of the new site - going back to how things used to be.
** This does seem to be the clear winner. Though backslash.com (which appears to be a parked domain) would work well too, since it's not *immediately* obvious legally that we stole the name (back slash dot com) from slashdot. Too bad dashdot.com and slashdotdash.com are both real in-use sites. slashdotdashdot.com appears to be parked, though.
**I second backslash.com if the domain can be obtained. ../ would be the subtler option, and I'm in favor of it.

* May I suggest HashBang (#!), I think it has a slightly better ring to it than hashbash
** I think anything with "#!" is probably going to be too close to Crunchbang Linux. They use that exact shorthand symbol. - Cactus

* Some fantastic ideas: SlashStar (/*), SlashSlash (//), ShebangShebang (#!#!), HotGrits, SovietSlashdot, DotSlash (./), DotSlashDot (./.), GNU/Slashdot (GNU//.), GNS (GNS = "GNP's Not Slashdot", and GNP = "Grits on Natalie Portman"), CowboyNeal.net, RoblimosOrphans.org, BangBangBang (!!!), CarrotSlashSlashSlashDot (^\/\.), YoungPastyHonkies.net, NoDiceSlashdot, SlashReset (/Reset), Carrotdot (^.), SlashHash (/#), PurpleTaro, CowboyNealOption, DennisRitchieIsGod.com, Ctrl-H (^H), Ctrl-C (^C), HGNP (Hot Grits on Natalie Portman)
* *.onion

* altslashctrl -- sort of gets the point across

* nodice.org and no-dice.org are unfortunately not available. -- [[User:Stderr dk|Stderr dk]] ([[User talk:Stderr dk|talk]]) 12:00, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* dicetoss.org is available

How much would dice holdings sell the classic slashdot.org site for? They can keep SlashTV, SlashBI, etc.

* I think the name should be kept to two syllables or less. Some of my favorites: dotdot (..), notdot(!.), backslash (\). Although it may be better to define the site based on what it is (is there any vision here other than 'slashdot classic'?) rather than what it isn't (slashdot beta). If this gains traction, it will be on its own merits and not because it forked slashcode. Maybe something like hashtech (#tech)? Works for old school IRC nerds and twitter hashtags.
** Not that I'm a particular fan of social media, but I do like #tech.
** +1 for '''backslash'''. Sounds like backlash, refers to Slashdot, and still a keyboard character. Apparantly, the domain BACKSLASH DOT ORG is for sale: [http://backslash.org/] (Moderator - 189749)
** +1 for backslash here..

* How about BangDot or KillDot? It sounds similar, but it is different enough than nobody will be able to claim it leads to confusion.
* How about Tildedot? h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-dot-tidle-dot-dot-org? (keick)
** Or maybe !|.org? BangPipe :) (keick)

* Can we stick these in a table please? With a column that indicates their status (taken - in use / taken - parked / available)? It also makes sense to group them into classes like: anti-dice, recognisably-similar-to-slashdot, novel. [[User:FatPhil|FatPhil]] ([[User talk:FatPhil|talk]]) 14:07, 6 February 2014 (MST) (FatPhil)

* I vote for hashbang.com unfortunately it seems that someone is parked on it. (Githaron)

* I think it has to be of the same spirit as slashdot. Taco wanted it to be confusing for people to type into a browser after hearing it h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-slash-dot-dot-org. I suggust something in that vein, tuned to the current mobile app store. I'd suggust something like the PlayAppStore. You'd sound like an idiot trying to explain it to someone else: go to playappstore

* Or we could go really go back to chips & dip, the previous name of slashdot,
it looks like the domain name has expired when i did a whois search. I liked the idea of using hashbang but like someone else pointed out it is used...

* I second both "chips and dip" and "dotdotslash" as clever alternatives. Divergence is second tier but I will also support it if no other alternatives gain traction.

* Is something like slashplusplus or something similar available? I like it because it is an increment of the past variable. Only downside is the slash in the name might not sit well with Dice legal. Trying to stay true to Taco's original naming convention is going to be difficult. (Nightbrood)

* My suggestions/picks would be '''hashslash''' (#/ -- not slashhash, btw); '''backslash''' (this is probably easier to defend if Dice tries to argue trademark); '''hotgrits''' (it's a short, catchy, very uniquely slashdot meme that also alludes to news, as in "hot off the presses"); '''frostpist''' (another strongly slashdot-flavored meme). --[[User:Voidphoenix|voidphoenix (710468)]] ([[User talk:Voidphoenix|talk]])

* I'll also throw this in: '''RTFC''' (read the fucking comments, because as several people have pointed out in the FuckBeta threads, slashdot has always been more about the community and the comments we post, and not really about the articles). --[[User:Voidphoenix|voidphoenix (710468)]] ([[User talk:Voidphoenix|talk]])

* Along the RTFC line, how about '''TCR - The Comment Router'''?

* Why do all the names have to reference slashdot in some way? Move on... think of something completely different and leave the past behind.

* NewsForNerds, NetNews, NerdsOnTheNet, NerdNews, NerdNewsDot,StuffAndThings -- ngarrang

* How about Starslash? The logo would be */ which looks like /. rotated 180 degrees. Might still be a trademark issue, but I think it would be acceptable as fair use since it would be a protest site. -- danbert8

* I second HotGrits - it references SlashDot in a good way without aping it (it was a user-generated meme), and it evokes "hot" news & discussion. Unfortunately hotgrits.org is now taken. If you have a great idea for a name maybe consider buying the domain before posting it here...

* Something like http://url.com or http://hostname.com would be awesome. It'd preserve the original spirit of being a pun, while being immidately aknowleadgable by the general audience.

* '''hotgrits''', '''frostpist''', '''RTFC''', are all good. RTFC is taken except for rtfc.us.com. These all reference slashdots culture with directly referencing slashdot explicitly. I don't like any of the dice or beta names as they won;t mean anything when slashdot goes the way of myspace...

==Name Options==
Please add ideas to these tables. Where possible, note if the URL is available. Consider adding your username to the 'votes' column.

====References to Slashdot, Beta, Dice, etc.====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name
! Rendering
! URL
! Comments/Votes
|-
| AltSlashot
| Alt/.
| altslashdot.org (registered by us)
| ''Trademark issues!''
|-
| AltSlash
| Alt/
|
| ''Trademark issues?''
|-
| AtSlash
| @/
|
| ''.org appears open. "I read it at atslashdotorg"''
|-
| '''FBeta'''
|
| fbeta.org
|
|-
| '''ForkBeta'''
|
| forkbeta.org
|
|-
| ForkSlashdot
|
|
|
|-
| '''SlashBang'''
| /!
|
| The .org is available.
|-
| SlashFork
|
|
|
|-
| SlashNot
| /!
|
|
|-
| '''BackSlash'''
| \
|
| Slashdot actually has a subsection called 'backslash'.
|-
| KillDot
|
|
|
|-
| KillBeta
|
|
|
|-
| DieBetaDie
|
|
|
|-
| BetterThanBeta
|
|
|
|-
| NoDice
|
|
|
|-
| DiceToss
|
|
|
|-
| NoDiceAllowed
|
|
| Domain Available
|-
| ColonSlash
|
|
| Because it looks funny (suggested on reddit)
|-
|SlashDash
|/-
|
|
|-
|CandyCrushSlashdotSaga
|
|
|
|-
|NoCountryForOldDevs
|
|
|
|-
|NoBeta
|
|
|meow
|-
|RTFC
|
|rtfc.us.com (.org, .net, and .com are taken)
|because TFC are what /. is about -- who needs TFA, or even TFS? :)
|-
|NotBeta
|!β
|notbeta.org
|Would need Unicode support on Slashcode-Should be done anyways
|}

====Typographic/Computer Puns====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name
! Rendering
! URL
! Comments/Votes
|-
| '''''DotDotSlash'''''
| ../
|
| As in "cd ../" ... also implies going back or up a level
|-
| HashBash
| #!(/bin/bash)
|
|
|-
| HashBang
| #!
| URL taken (parked domain)
| Possible confusion with Crunchbang Linux?
|-
| HashDot
| #.
|
|
|-
| HashSlash
| #/
|
| about "slash"; or tagged "slash"
|-
| DotDot
| ..
|
|
|-
| NotDot
| !.
|
|
|-
| BangDot
| !.
|
|
|-
| BackDot
| \.
|
|
|-
| BangSlashDot
| !/.
| Available to us (registered by Slashdot user somenickname (184564)).
|
|-
| TildeDot
| ~.
|
|
|-
| BangPipe
| !|
|
|
|-
| SlashStar
| /*
|
| Used in C to comment code, in recognition that the focus is on comments
|-
| StarSlash
| */
| starslash.org
| Looks like the /. logo rotated 180 degrees. Domain is available.
|-
| SlashSlash
| //
|
|
|-
| ShebangShebang
| #!#!
|
|
|-
| CaretSlashSlashSlashDot
| ^\/\.
|
|
|-
| CaretDot
| ^.
|
|
|-
| SlashHash
| /#
|
|
|-
| PlusDot
| +.
|
|
|-
| BinBash
| /bin/bash
|
|
|-
| SlashUsr
| /usr
|
|
|-
| SlashHome
| /home
|
|
|-
| SlashVarLog
| /var/log
|
|
|-
| divergence
|
|
| The name represents how we're going in a new direction. Also, the symbol could be the mathematical divergence operator: a 'nabla' followed by a dot, which looks like an 'augmented' version of a slash followed by a dot.
|-
| HashTech
| #tech
|
| Has dual IRC and hastag meanings.
|-
| AtNot
| @!
|
| Short
|-
| PlayAppStore
|
|
| "Slashdot" was meant to confuse neophytes reading it aloud; the modern equivalent would be calling a site something like "PlayAppStore".
|-
| CtrlL
|
|
| For "Clear Screen" in a terminal window.
|-
| CtrlZ
|
|
| Keyboard code for "Undo"
|-
| url.com or hostname.com
|
|
| Puns in the original spirit of /. Also, comments for nerds, stuff that matters.
|-
|SlashDotDot
| /..
|
| to indicate we're backing up a level...
|-
|SlashHash
| /#
|
| Captures hash tags, anchor tags, and is sometimes used to represent forks.
|}

====Memes====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name
! Rendering
! URL
! Comments/Votes
|-
| CowboyNeal
|
|
| ''Trademark issues?''
|-
| Cyborg Bill
|
| .net, .org available
| ''Was this the right term?''
|-
| Natalie Portman
|
|
| ''Trademark issues?''
|-
| FrostPist
|
| .com, .net, .org available
| [[User:El_Oscuro|El Oscuro]] Nice /. theme!
|-
| FrostyHotGrits
|
| .com, .net, ,org available :-)
| [[User:Sir Garlon|Sir Garlon]]'s vote
|-
| HotGrits
|
| .org available
| [[User:El_Oscuro|El Oscuro]] Nice /. theme!
|-
|LaserSharks
|
|.net, .org available
| [[User:El_Oscuro|El Oscuro]] Nice /. theme!
|}

NewName

2014-02-08T00:59:05Z

El Oscuro: /* References to Slashdot, Beta, Dice, etc. */

''We need a new name''

''I agree with everyone who has suggested a name different from "AltSlashdot".''

''So far, none of the suggested alternatives seem to be popular (I considered "ForkSlashdot" and discarded it :-).''

''I think the best course is to get things up and running and then hold a name contest. A community effort should make this task easy.''

''We don't have to do this immediately. "AltSlashdot" is significantly different from "Slashdot", and we won't be poaching any of their stories or (as much as practical) style.''

''If things go very well, the new site might be up and running by Monday (Feb 10). Giving some time to settle in, we could have the contest in two weeks or so. If everything goes well...''

==Name change discussion==

I propose "NoBeta" as a name, ensuring that this new site never forgets its roots. It's a name with an [ongoing] story behind it, has all sorts of 31337 connotations, etc etc. It could make for a good story some day.

----

Someone below proposed "NotBeta" as a name, with the "!β" as its shorthand. I'm all in for that!
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Second NotBeta.org -That url should be obtained as it is a winner!!! Plus unicode support is the one feature anyone actually wants implemented.

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SGT CAPSLOCK

killbeta.org?
diebetadie.org?

unitron

* Really, I'm sold on AltSlashdot, but I just want to make sure that there will be enough Natalie Portman.

''If we turn a profit by the end of the year, I'll put a Natalie Portman link on the front page.''

* Can we somehow get Cowboyneal back? Can we plan some evil way to get him fired from his current job and desperate enough to come back reestablish the Slashdot community as its tribal leader?

* I think we should veer away from establishing an identity based on Dice, the Beta or our strong negative feelings about those. This is about re-establishing the community and giving us a new home, one that belongs to the community and isn't beholden to some evil corporate overlords. Alluding to slashdot is okay -- I agree with SGT CAPSLOCK that we shouldn't forget our roots. --[[User:Voidphoenix|voidphoenix (710468)]] ([[User talk:Voidphoenix|talk]])

== New Name ==
Please comment. For actual proposals, see the [[NewName#Name Options|tables below]].

* Consider a '''name change'''. If you're serious about this, then the name "AltSlashdot" will run you into legal trouble down the road, since Slashdot/Dice/etc. will sue for Trademark infringement (and will have a solid case). Slashdot user [http://slashdot.org/~tpaudio tpaudio] suggested [http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757151&cid=46170795 "Plusdot"]. Another idea (mine) is to call it "divergence" or "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divergence divergence operator]"... the logo would be the mathematical form of divergence, i.e. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabla_symbol nabla] symbol followed by a dot (which looks like an augmented "slash dot"). --Slashdot user [http://slashdot.org/~JustinOpinion JustinOpinion].
** I agree with JustinOpinion, any name with "slash" or "dot" in it will put us in the crosshairs of Dice's lawyers, and we do not want that. "Divergence" is nice. --[[User:Sir Garlon]] 16:36, 2014-02-06 (EST)
** I like Divergence too. Also fitting that it's a unicode character, which Slashdot can't handle... --Anonymous Coward
** Perhaps altslash.org? Sounds far enough from slashdot to avoid problems, but close enough to clue in any refugees. [[User:Max Hyre|Max Hyre]] ([[User talk:Max Hyre|talk]]) 08:34, 6 February 2014 (MST)
** I'm gonna vote for '''divergence''', I think the name along speaks to the community as to why we want something different/better than the aim of SlashFail Beta. (keick)
** Vote for '''divergence''' also for the same reasons as mentioned above (Qwade)
** I also vote for '''divergence''' anything that comes out of this will probably be eyed by Dice legal. (Nightbrood)

* I agree that AltSlashdot is hard to pronounce, but wasn't that the idea behind h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-slash-dot-dot-o-r-g (that is should be hard to pronounce)? [[User:Dotancohen|Dotancohen]] ([[User talk:Dotancohen|talk]]) 08:41, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* The name "AltSlashdot" does not "mouth" well. May I suggest "Slashfork"? --[[User:Koen|Koen]] ([[User talk:Koen|talk]]) 08:52, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* How about betterthanbeta.org or similar? After all, we all know what created this. Another option would be some meme-based thing, like frostyhotgrits.org. Actually, frostyhotgrits.org would be both unique, and make most Slashdotters feel right at home. Greets, Iskender (1040286) [[Special:Contributions/86.50.93.164|86.50.93.164]] 09:39, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* backslashdot.org. Backslash. Back to basics. Back to the old school. Hell yea.
**Alternatively - why not a more elegant backslash.org ? --kell
** I agree with '''backslash.org''', seems to be up for sale.

* can we get one of those new top-level domains, like .bank, except instead get .dot? Then name it SlashSlash.dot ;-)

* I second the person who suggested dot-dot-slash (../). Going up a directory is like going "back", which is the purpose of the new site - going back to how things used to be.
** This does seem to be the clear winner. Though backslash.com (which appears to be a parked domain) would work well too, since it's not *immediately* obvious legally that we stole the name (back slash dot com) from slashdot. Too bad dashdot.com and slashdotdash.com are both real in-use sites. slashdotdashdot.com appears to be parked, though.
**I second backslash.com if the domain can be obtained. ../ would be the subtler option, and I'm in favor of it.

* May I suggest HashBang (#!), I think it has a slightly better ring to it than hashbash
** I think anything with "#!" is probably going to be too close to Crunchbang Linux. They use that exact shorthand symbol. - Cactus

* Some fantastic ideas: SlashStar (/*), SlashSlash (//), ShebangShebang (#!#!), HotGrits, SovietSlashdot, DotSlash (./), DotSlashDot (./.), GNU/Slashdot (GNU//.), GNS (GNS = "GNP's Not Slashdot", and GNP = "Grits on Natalie Portman"), CowboyNeal.net, RoblimosOrphans.org, BangBangBang (!!!), CarrotSlashSlashSlashDot (^\/\.), YoungPastyHonkies.net, NoDiceSlashdot, SlashReset (/Reset), Carrotdot (^.), SlashHash (/#), PurpleTaro, CowboyNealOption, DennisRitchieIsGod.com, Ctrl-H (^H), Ctrl-C (^C), HGNP (Hot Grits on Natalie Portman)
* *.onion

* altslashctrl -- sort of gets the point across

* nodice.org and no-dice.org are unfortunately not available. -- [[User:Stderr dk|Stderr dk]] ([[User talk:Stderr dk|talk]]) 12:00, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* dicetoss.org is available

How much would dice holdings sell the classic slashdot.org site for? They can keep SlashTV, SlashBI, etc.

* I think the name should be kept to two syllables or less. Some of my favorites: dotdot (..), notdot(!.), backslash (\). Although it may be better to define the site based on what it is (is there any vision here other than 'slashdot classic'?) rather than what it isn't (slashdot beta). If this gains traction, it will be on its own merits and not because it forked slashcode. Maybe something like hashtech (#tech)? Works for old school IRC nerds and twitter hashtags.
** Not that I'm a particular fan of social media, but I do like #tech.
** +1 for '''backslash'''. Sounds like backlash, refers to Slashdot, and still a keyboard character. Apparantly, the domain BACKSLASH DOT ORG is for sale: [http://backslash.org/] (Moderator - 189749)
** +1 for backslash here..

* How about BangDot or KillDot? It sounds similar, but it is different enough than nobody will be able to claim it leads to confusion.
* How about Tildedot? h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-dot-tidle-dot-dot-org? (keick)
** Or maybe !|.org? BangPipe :) (keick)

* Can we stick these in a table please? With a column that indicates their status (taken - in use / taken - parked / available)? It also makes sense to group them into classes like: anti-dice, recognisably-similar-to-slashdot, novel. [[User:FatPhil|FatPhil]] ([[User talk:FatPhil|talk]]) 14:07, 6 February 2014 (MST) (FatPhil)

* I vote for hashbang.com unfortunately it seems that someone is parked on it. (Githaron)

* I think it has to be of the same spirit as slashdot. Taco wanted it to be confusing for people to type into a browser after hearing it h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-slash-dot-dot-org. I suggust something in that vein, tuned to the current mobile app store. I'd suggust something like the PlayAppStore. You'd sound like an idiot trying to explain it to someone else: go to playappstore

* Or we could go really go back to chips & dip, the previous name of slashdot,
it looks like the domain name has expired when i did a whois search. I liked the idea of using hashbang but like someone else pointed out it is used...

* I second both "chips and dip" and "dotdotslash" as clever alternatives. Divergence is second tier but I will also support it if no other alternatives gain traction.

* Is something like slashplusplus or something similar available? I like it because it is an increment of the past variable. Only downside is the slash in the name might not sit well with Dice legal. Trying to stay true to Taco's original naming convention is going to be difficult. (Nightbrood)

* My suggestions/picks would be '''hashslash''' (#/ -- not slashhash, btw); '''backslash''' (this is probably easier to defend if Dice tries to argue trademark); '''hotgrits''' (it's a short, catchy, very uniquely slashdot meme that also alludes to news, as in "hot off the presses"); '''frostpist''' (another strongly slashdot-flavored meme). --[[User:Voidphoenix|voidphoenix (710468)]] ([[User talk:Voidphoenix|talk]])

* I'll also throw this in: '''RTFC''' (read the fucking comments, because as several people have pointed out in the FuckBeta threads, slashdot has always been more about the community and the comments we post, and not really about the articles). --[[User:Voidphoenix|voidphoenix (710468)]] ([[User talk:Voidphoenix|talk]])

* Along the RTFC line, how about '''TCR - The Comment Router'''?

* Why do all the names have to reference slashdot in some way? Move on... think of something completely different and leave the past behind.

* NewsForNerds, NetNews, NerdsOnTheNet, NerdNews, NerdNewsDot,StuffAndThings -- ngarrang

* How about Starslash? The logo would be */ which looks like /. rotated 180 degrees. Might still be a trademark issue, but I think it would be acceptable as fair use since it would be a protest site. -- danbert8

* I second HotGrits - it references SlashDot in a good way without aping it (it was a user-generated meme), and it evokes "hot" news & discussion. Unfortunately hotgrits.org is now taken. If you have a great idea for a name maybe consider buying the domain before posting it here...

* Something like http://url.com or http://hostname.com would be awesome. It'd preserve the original spirit of being a pun, while being immidately aknowleadgable by the general audience.

* '''hotgrits''', '''frostpist''', '''RTFC''', are all good. RTFC is taken except for rtfc.us.com. These all reference slashdots culture with directly referencing slashdot explicitly. I don't like any of the dice or beta names as they won;t mean anything when slashdot goes the way of myspace...

==Name Options==
Please add ideas to these tables. Where possible, note if the URL is available. Consider adding your username to the 'votes' column.

====References to Slashdot, Beta, Dice, etc.====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name
! Rendering
! URL
! Comments/Votes
|-
| AltSlashot
| Alt/.
| altslashdot.org (registered by us)
| ''Trademark issues!''
|-
| AltSlash
| Alt/
|
| ''Trademark issues?''
|-
| AtSlash
| @/
|
| ''.org appears open. "I read it at atslashdotorg"''
|-
| '''FBeta'''
|
| fbeta.org
|
|-
| '''ForkBeta'''
|
| forkbeta.org
|
|-
| ForkSlashdot
|
|
|
|-
| '''SlashBang'''
| /!
|
| The .org is available.
|-
| SlashFork
|
|
|
|-
| SlashNot
| /!
|
|
|-
| '''BackSlash'''
| \
|
| Slashdot actually has a subsection called 'backslash'.
|-
| KillDot
|
|
|
|-
| KillBeta
|
|
|
|-
| DieBetaDie
|
|
|
|-
| BetterThanBeta
|
|
|
|-
| NoDice
|
|
|
|-
| DiceToss
|
|
|
|-
| NoDiceAllowed
|
|
| Domain Available
|-
| ColonSlash
|
|
| Because it looks funny (suggested on reddit)
|-
|SlashDash
|/-
|
|
|-
|CandyCrushSlashdotSaga
|
|
|
|-
|NoCountryForOldDevs
|
|
|
|-
|NoBeta
|
|
|meow
|-
|RTFC
|
|rtfc.us.com (.org, .net, and .com are taken)
|because TFC are what /. is about -- who needs TFA, or even TFS? :)
|-
|NotBeta
|!β
|notbeta.org
|Would need Unicode support on Slashcode-Should be done anyways
|}

====Typographic/Computer Puns====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name
! Rendering
! URL
! Comments/Votes
|-
| '''''DotDotSlash'''''
| ../
|
| As in "cd ../" ... also implies going back or up a level
|-
| HashBash
| #!(/bin/bash)
|
|
|-
| HashBang
| #!
| URL taken (parked domain)
| Possible confusion with Crunchbang Linux?
|-
| HashDot
| #.
|
|
|-
| HashSlash
| #/
|
| about "slash"; or tagged "slash"
|-
| DotDot
| ..
|
|
|-
| NotDot
| !.
|
|
|-
| BangDot
| !.
|
|
|-
| BackDot
| \.
|
|
|-
| BangSlashDot
| !/.
| Available to us (registered by Slashdot user somenickname (184564)).
|
|-
| TildeDot
| ~.
|
|
|-
| BangPipe
| !|
|
|
|-
| SlashStar
| /*
|
| Used in C to comment code, in recognition that the focus is on comments
|-
| StarSlash
| */
| starslash.org
| Looks like the /. logo rotated 180 degrees. Domain is available.
|-
| SlashSlash
| //
|
|
|-
| ShebangShebang
| #!#!
|
|
|-
| CaretSlashSlashSlashDot
| ^\/\.
|
|
|-
| CaretDot
| ^.
|
|
|-
| SlashHash
| /#
|
|
|-
| PlusDot
| +.
|
|
|-
| BinBash
| /bin/bash
|
|
|-
| SlashUsr
| /usr
|
|
|-
| SlashHome
| /home
|
|
|-
| SlashVarLog
| /var/log
|
|
|-
| divergence
|
|
| The name represents how we're going in a new direction. Also, the symbol could be the mathematical divergence operator: a 'nabla' followed by a dot, which looks like an 'augmented' version of a slash followed by a dot.
|-
| HashTech
| #tech
|
| Has dual IRC and hastag meanings.
|-
| AtNot
| @!
|
| Short
|-
| PlayAppStore
|
|
| "Slashdot" was meant to confuse neophytes reading it aloud; the modern equivalent would be calling a site something like "PlayAppStore".
|-
| CtrlL
|
|
| For "Clear Screen" in a terminal window.
|-
| CtrlZ
|
|
| Keyboard code for "Undo"
|-
| url.com or hostname.com
|
|
| Puns in the original spirit of /. Also, comments for nerds, stuff that matters.
|-
|SlashDotDot
| /..
|
| to indicate we're backing up a level...
|-
|SlashHash
| /#
|
| Captures hash tags, anchor tags, and is sometimes used to represent forks.
|}

====Memes====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name
! Rendering
! URL
! Comments/Votes
|-
| CowboyNeal
|
|
| ''Trademark issues?''
|-
| Cyborg Bill
|
| .net, .org available
| ''Was this the right term?''
|-
| Natalie Portman
|
|
| ''Trademark issues?''
|-
| FrostPist
|
| .com, .net, .org available
|
|-
| FrostyHotGrits
|
| .com, .net, ,org available :-)
| [[User:Sir Garlon|Sir Garlon]]'s vote
|-
| HotGrits
|
| .org available
|
|-
|LaserSharks
|
|.net, .org available
|
|}

NewName

2014-02-08T00:57:14Z

El Oscuro: /* New Name */

''We need a new name''

''I agree with everyone who has suggested a name different from "AltSlashdot".''

''So far, none of the suggested alternatives seem to be popular (I considered "ForkSlashdot" and discarded it :-).''

''I think the best course is to get things up and running and then hold a name contest. A community effort should make this task easy.''

''We don't have to do this immediately. "AltSlashdot" is significantly different from "Slashdot", and we won't be poaching any of their stories or (as much as practical) style.''

''If things go very well, the new site might be up and running by Monday (Feb 10). Giving some time to settle in, we could have the contest in two weeks or so. If everything goes well...''

==Name change discussion==

I propose "NoBeta" as a name, ensuring that this new site never forgets its roots. It's a name with an [ongoing] story behind it, has all sorts of 31337 connotations, etc etc. It could make for a good story some day.

----

Someone below proposed "NotBeta" as a name, with the "!β" as its shorthand. I'm all in for that!
----
Second NotBeta.org -That url should be obtained as it is a winner!!! Plus unicode support is the one feature anyone actually wants implemented.

----
SGT CAPSLOCK

killbeta.org?
diebetadie.org?

unitron

* Really, I'm sold on AltSlashdot, but I just want to make sure that there will be enough Natalie Portman.

''If we turn a profit by the end of the year, I'll put a Natalie Portman link on the front page.''

* Can we somehow get Cowboyneal back? Can we plan some evil way to get him fired from his current job and desperate enough to come back reestablish the Slashdot community as its tribal leader?

* I think we should veer away from establishing an identity based on Dice, the Beta or our strong negative feelings about those. This is about re-establishing the community and giving us a new home, one that belongs to the community and isn't beholden to some evil corporate overlords. Alluding to slashdot is okay -- I agree with SGT CAPSLOCK that we shouldn't forget our roots. --[[User:Voidphoenix|voidphoenix (710468)]] ([[User talk:Voidphoenix|talk]])

== New Name ==
Please comment. For actual proposals, see the [[NewName#Name Options|tables below]].

* Consider a '''name change'''. If you're serious about this, then the name "AltSlashdot" will run you into legal trouble down the road, since Slashdot/Dice/etc. will sue for Trademark infringement (and will have a solid case). Slashdot user [http://slashdot.org/~tpaudio tpaudio] suggested [http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757151&cid=46170795 "Plusdot"]. Another idea (mine) is to call it "divergence" or "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divergence divergence operator]"... the logo would be the mathematical form of divergence, i.e. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabla_symbol nabla] symbol followed by a dot (which looks like an augmented "slash dot"). --Slashdot user [http://slashdot.org/~JustinOpinion JustinOpinion].
** I agree with JustinOpinion, any name with "slash" or "dot" in it will put us in the crosshairs of Dice's lawyers, and we do not want that. "Divergence" is nice. --[[User:Sir Garlon]] 16:36, 2014-02-06 (EST)
** I like Divergence too. Also fitting that it's a unicode character, which Slashdot can't handle... --Anonymous Coward
** Perhaps altslash.org? Sounds far enough from slashdot to avoid problems, but close enough to clue in any refugees. [[User:Max Hyre|Max Hyre]] ([[User talk:Max Hyre|talk]]) 08:34, 6 February 2014 (MST)
** I'm gonna vote for '''divergence''', I think the name along speaks to the community as to why we want something different/better than the aim of SlashFail Beta. (keick)
** Vote for '''divergence''' also for the same reasons as mentioned above (Qwade)
** I also vote for '''divergence''' anything that comes out of this will probably be eyed by Dice legal. (Nightbrood)

* I agree that AltSlashdot is hard to pronounce, but wasn't that the idea behind h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-slash-dot-dot-o-r-g (that is should be hard to pronounce)? [[User:Dotancohen|Dotancohen]] ([[User talk:Dotancohen|talk]]) 08:41, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* The name "AltSlashdot" does not "mouth" well. May I suggest "Slashfork"? --[[User:Koen|Koen]] ([[User talk:Koen|talk]]) 08:52, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* How about betterthanbeta.org or similar? After all, we all know what created this. Another option would be some meme-based thing, like frostyhotgrits.org. Actually, frostyhotgrits.org would be both unique, and make most Slashdotters feel right at home. Greets, Iskender (1040286) [[Special:Contributions/86.50.93.164|86.50.93.164]] 09:39, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* backslashdot.org. Backslash. Back to basics. Back to the old school. Hell yea.
**Alternatively - why not a more elegant backslash.org ? --kell
** I agree with '''backslash.org''', seems to be up for sale.

* can we get one of those new top-level domains, like .bank, except instead get .dot? Then name it SlashSlash.dot ;-)

* I second the person who suggested dot-dot-slash (../). Going up a directory is like going "back", which is the purpose of the new site - going back to how things used to be.
** This does seem to be the clear winner. Though backslash.com (which appears to be a parked domain) would work well too, since it's not *immediately* obvious legally that we stole the name (back slash dot com) from slashdot. Too bad dashdot.com and slashdotdash.com are both real in-use sites. slashdotdashdot.com appears to be parked, though.
**I second backslash.com if the domain can be obtained. ../ would be the subtler option, and I'm in favor of it.

* May I suggest HashBang (#!), I think it has a slightly better ring to it than hashbash
** I think anything with "#!" is probably going to be too close to Crunchbang Linux. They use that exact shorthand symbol. - Cactus

* Some fantastic ideas: SlashStar (/*), SlashSlash (//), ShebangShebang (#!#!), HotGrits, SovietSlashdot, DotSlash (./), DotSlashDot (./.), GNU/Slashdot (GNU//.), GNS (GNS = "GNP's Not Slashdot", and GNP = "Grits on Natalie Portman"), CowboyNeal.net, RoblimosOrphans.org, BangBangBang (!!!), CarrotSlashSlashSlashDot (^\/\.), YoungPastyHonkies.net, NoDiceSlashdot, SlashReset (/Reset), Carrotdot (^.), SlashHash (/#), PurpleTaro, CowboyNealOption, DennisRitchieIsGod.com, Ctrl-H (^H), Ctrl-C (^C), HGNP (Hot Grits on Natalie Portman)
* *.onion

* altslashctrl -- sort of gets the point across

* nodice.org and no-dice.org are unfortunately not available. -- [[User:Stderr dk|Stderr dk]] ([[User talk:Stderr dk|talk]]) 12:00, 6 February 2014 (MST)

* dicetoss.org is available

How much would dice holdings sell the classic slashdot.org site for? They can keep SlashTV, SlashBI, etc.

* I think the name should be kept to two syllables or less. Some of my favorites: dotdot (..), notdot(!.), backslash (\). Although it may be better to define the site based on what it is (is there any vision here other than 'slashdot classic'?) rather than what it isn't (slashdot beta). If this gains traction, it will be on its own merits and not because it forked slashcode. Maybe something like hashtech (#tech)? Works for old school IRC nerds and twitter hashtags.
** Not that I'm a particular fan of social media, but I do like #tech.
** +1 for '''backslash'''. Sounds like backlash, refers to Slashdot, and still a keyboard character. Apparantly, the domain BACKSLASH DOT ORG is for sale: [http://backslash.org/] (Moderator - 189749)
** +1 for backslash here..

* How about BangDot or KillDot? It sounds similar, but it is different enough than nobody will be able to claim it leads to confusion.
* How about Tildedot? h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-dot-tidle-dot-dot-org? (keick)
** Or maybe !|.org? BangPipe :) (keick)

* Can we stick these in a table please? With a column that indicates their status (taken - in use / taken - parked / available)? It also makes sense to group them into classes like: anti-dice, recognisably-similar-to-slashdot, novel. [[User:FatPhil|FatPhil]] ([[User talk:FatPhil|talk]]) 14:07, 6 February 2014 (MST) (FatPhil)

* I vote for hashbang.com unfortunately it seems that someone is parked on it. (Githaron)

* I think it has to be of the same spirit as slashdot. Taco wanted it to be confusing for people to type into a browser after hearing it h-t-t-p-colon-slash-slash-slash-dot-dot-org. I suggust something in that vein, tuned to the current mobile app store. I'd suggust something like the PlayAppStore. You'd sound like an idiot trying to explain it to someone else: go to playappstore

* Or we could go really go back to chips & dip, the previous name of slashdot,
it looks like the domain name has expired when i did a whois search. I liked the idea of using hashbang but like someone else pointed out it is used...

* I second both "chips and dip" and "dotdotslash" as clever alternatives. Divergence is second tier but I will also support it if no other alternatives gain traction.

* Is something like slashplusplus or something similar available? I like it because it is an increment of the past variable. Only downside is the slash in the name might not sit well with Dice legal. Trying to stay true to Taco's original naming convention is going to be difficult. (Nightbrood)

* My suggestions/picks would be '''hashslash''' (#/ -- not slashhash, btw); '''backslash''' (this is probably easier to defend if Dice tries to argue trademark); '''hotgrits''' (it's a short, catchy, very uniquely slashdot meme that also alludes to news, as in "hot off the presses"); '''frostpist''' (another strongly slashdot-flavored meme). --[[User:Voidphoenix|voidphoenix (710468)]] ([[User talk:Voidphoenix|talk]])

* I'll also throw this in: '''RTFC''' (read the fucking comments, because as several people have pointed out in the FuckBeta threads, slashdot has always been more about the community and the comments we post, and not really about the articles). --[[User:Voidphoenix|voidphoenix (710468)]] ([[User talk:Voidphoenix|talk]])

* Along the RTFC line, how about '''TCR - The Comment Router'''?

* Why do all the names have to reference slashdot in some way? Move on... think of something completely different and leave the past behind.

* NewsForNerds, NetNews, NerdsOnTheNet, NerdNews, NerdNewsDot,StuffAndThings -- ngarrang

* How about Starslash? The logo would be */ which looks like /. rotated 180 degrees. Might still be a trademark issue, but I think it would be acceptable as fair use since it would be a protest site. -- danbert8

* I second HotGrits - it references SlashDot in a good way without aping it (it was a user-generated meme), and it evokes "hot" news & discussion. Unfortunately hotgrits.org is now taken. If you have a great idea for a name maybe consider buying the domain before posting it here...

* Something like http://url.com or http://hostname.com would be awesome. It'd preserve the original spirit of being a pun, while being immidately aknowleadgable by the general audience.

* '''hotgrits''', '''frostpist''', '''RTFC''', are all good. RTFC is taken except for rtfc.us.com. These all reference slashdots culture with directly referencing slashdot explicitly. I don't like any of the dice or beta names as they won;t mean anything when slashdot goes the way of myspace...

==Name Options==
Please add ideas to these tables. Where possible, note if the URL is available. Consider adding your username to the 'votes' column.

====References to Slashdot, Beta, Dice, etc.====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name
! Rendering
! URL
! Comments/Votes
|-
| AltSlashot
| Alt/.
| altslashdot.org (registered by us)
| ''Trademark issues!''
|-
| AltSlash
| Alt/
|
| ''Trademark issues?''
|-
| AtSlash
| @/
|
| ''.org appears open. "I read it at atslashdotorg"''
|-
| '''FBeta'''
|
| fbeta.org
|
|-
| '''ForkBeta'''
|
| forkbeta.org
|
|-
| ForkSlashdot
|
|
|
|-
| '''SlashBang'''
| /!
|
| The .org is available.
|-
| SlashFork
|
|
|
|-
| SlashNot
| /!
|
|
|-
| '''BackSlash'''
| \
|
| Slashdot actually has a subsection called 'backslash'.
|-
| KillDot
|
|
|
|-
| KillBeta
|
|
|
|-
| DieBetaDie
|
|
|
|-
| BetterThanBeta
|
|
|
|-
| NoDice
|
|
|
|-
| DiceToss
|
|
|
|-
| NoDiceAllowed
|
|
| Domain Available
|-
| ColonSlash
|
|
| Because it looks funny (suggested on reddit)
|-
|SlashDash
|/-
|
|
|-
|CandyCrushSlashdotSaga
|
|
|
|-
|NoCountryForOldDevs
|
|
|
|-
|NoBeta
|
|
|meow
|-
|RTFC
|
|
|because TFC are what /. is about -- who needs TFA, or even TFS? :)
|-
|NotBeta
|!β
|notbeta.org
|Would need Unicode support on Slashcode-Should be done anyways
|}

====Typographic/Computer Puns====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name
! Rendering
! URL
! Comments/Votes
|-
| '''''DotDotSlash'''''
| ../
|
| As in "cd ../" ... also implies going back or up a level
|-
| HashBash
| #!(/bin/bash)
|
|
|-
| HashBang
| #!
| URL taken (parked domain)
| Possible confusion with Crunchbang Linux?
|-
| HashDot
| #.
|
|
|-
| HashSlash
| #/
|
| about "slash"; or tagged "slash"
|-
| DotDot
| ..
|
|
|-
| NotDot
| !.
|
|
|-
| BangDot
| !.
|
|
|-
| BackDot
| \.
|
|
|-
| BangSlashDot
| !/.
| Available to us (registered by Slashdot user somenickname (184564)).
|
|-
| TildeDot
| ~.
|
|
|-
| BangPipe
| !|
|
|
|-
| SlashStar
| /*
|
| Used in C to comment code, in recognition that the focus is on comments
|-
| StarSlash
| */
| starslash.org
| Looks like the /. logo rotated 180 degrees. Domain is available.
|-
| SlashSlash
| //
|
|
|-
| ShebangShebang
| #!#!
|
|
|-
| CaretSlashSlashSlashDot
| ^\/\.
|
|
|-
| CaretDot
| ^.
|
|
|-
| SlashHash
| /#
|
|
|-
| PlusDot
| +.
|
|
|-
| BinBash
| /bin/bash
|
|
|-
| SlashUsr
| /usr
|
|
|-
| SlashHome
| /home
|
|
|-
| SlashVarLog
| /var/log
|
|
|-
| divergence
|
|
| The name represents how we're going in a new direction. Also, the symbol could be the mathematical divergence operator: a 'nabla' followed by a dot, which looks like an 'augmented' version of a slash followed by a dot.
|-
| HashTech
| #tech
|
| Has dual IRC and hastag meanings.
|-
| AtNot
| @!
|
| Short
|-
| PlayAppStore
|
|
| "Slashdot" was meant to confuse neophytes reading it aloud; the modern equivalent would be calling a site something like "PlayAppStore".
|-
| CtrlL
|
|
| For "Clear Screen" in a terminal window.
|-
| CtrlZ
|
|
| Keyboard code for "Undo"
|-
| url.com or hostname.com
|
|
| Puns in the original spirit of /. Also, comments for nerds, stuff that matters.
|-
|SlashDotDot
| /..
|
| to indicate we're backing up a level...
|-
|SlashHash
| /#
|
| Captures hash tags, anchor tags, and is sometimes used to represent forks.
|}

====Memes====
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name
! Rendering
! URL
! Comments/Votes
|-
| CowboyNeal
|
|
| ''Trademark issues?''
|-
| Cyborg Bill
|
| .net, .org available
| ''Was this the right term?''
|-
| Natalie Portman
|
|
| ''Trademark issues?''
|-
| FrostPist
|
| .com, .net, .org available
|
|-
| FrostyHotGrits
|
| .com, .net, ,org available :-)
| [[User:Sir Garlon|Sir Garlon]]'s vote
|-
| HotGrits
|
| .org available
|
|-
|LaserSharks
|
|.net, .org available
|
|}